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40 Responses to “The Day in Court for the Church of God in Christ and the COGIC New Day”

1. McKia Arnold, on February 10th, 2004 at 4:41 pm Said:

   This is just a matter of one so-called man of God being jealous of Bishop Patterson’s position. He can not apologize for being the person whom God has appointed to lead this denomination. God places his children in certain positions for certain reasons. Why would someone want to pull out from an organization, start their own, and keep apart of the name, C.O.G.I.C. If one doesn’t want to be apart of an establishment, why steal from it. When Bishop Mason founded this denomination, God gave him a name for it, and if Rev. Grayson wants to start his own thing, he should have faith that the Lord will give him a name for it. If someone who worked at McDonald’s didn’t want to be apart of the company anymore and had a vision of starting their own, and named it “McDonald’s New Burger” or something, that is not cool. If Grayson’s actions are of God, God will give him favor by providing a name for his new establishment. Bishop Patterson has no problem whatsoever with the fact that Grayson wants to start a new denomination, but what he won’t allow is someone to use the C.O.G.I.C name while he is the leader. People are trying to make Bishop Patterson look like the monster here, But “touch not his annointing”, no one can mess with a child of God. Bishop Patterson is still the man.

2. Elder Eric Boatner, on February 17th, 2004 at 12:05 pm Said:

   The preceding comment hit the proverbial nail on the head. God gave Bishop Mason the name for the first established pentecostal holiness church after the outpouring at Azusa. Bishop Grayson should continue to embrace and promulgate the tenets of the faith but seek God for a name for the new organization.

3. Dorothy Greer, on February 19th, 2004 at 10:41 pm Said:

   It is a “New Day”….. For “This is the day which the Lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it” (Ps 118:24); Bishop Grayson apparently believes that he is in the will of God, and “God is not the author of confusion” (ICor 14:33) and as saints we should “Follow peace with ALL men” (Heb 12:14)and we should “Let ALL things be done decently and in order” (ICor 14:40). If churches choose to “pull out” there is a better way that this can be accomplished without causing so much confusion. God gets no glory from the way this is being done. Saints of God!!! James 4:1(a)”From whence come wars and fightings among you?” St. Jn 13:35 “By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, IF ye have love one to another.” We are a PITIFUL WITNESS before the world… all for a white choker, a piece of paper and a seat in front of the choir stand…. God’s main concern is SOULS… It’s time to pray…Lord forgive us and help us all… for we know not what we do….. we need your mercy….

4. COGICTRUTH@JUNO.COM, on May 30th, 2004 at 11:16 pm Said:

   Oddly enough, the Church of God In Christ as we see it today, actually began in the secular court. If you look in your COGIC National by-laws black book you will see the story. Today, we do not run to the secular courts without reason. We shouldn’t have to, but the reality is many time we are given no choice. See Brown vs. Gipson or Robinson vs. The Board of Directors. Certainly, the “church” as a legal entity must follow the laws of the land concerning its formation, however the spiritual aspect of the chruch was certainly another matter, speaking of the falling out of the Holy Spirt on Azua street. Here is where many in our faith are relunctant to make the distinction; our spiritual existance is dependant upon Jesus Christ, our legal existance is dependant upon the laws of the state in which we live and do business. Smearing the distinction between the two is what causes us to fall into heated debates. Since we began in the courts, it SHOULD be no shock that we sometimes need to return to that secular court system to resolve issues. The reason is that we as a people are not perfect. We are aware that it is possible for a person to be called of God and over time to be led astray of that original calling. We KNOW this and yet when we see one of our leaders being led astray and trying to take us with him or her, he resist opposition becuase he/she is called of God. We have many examples in scripture that show us how wrong one can be even when they are certain of their path. I give you Saul. Was he not in fact CONVINCED he was doing the work of God by stopping this radical faction? We have in the past depicted Saul as an evil man, trying to destroy the church. He was in fact a religious man doing what he thought was the will of God. Even with that simple example of a man of God gone astray, we continue to have incidents such as those who died in Jonestown. Logically, we must admit that at one time Reverend Jim Jones had some calling on his life. It is easier to think that he was led of the devil from day one, and set out from the beginning to deceive the saints of God. This irrational thinking absolves us from having to accept that even God’s called can be led astray by money, sex or power. It also relieves us of the responsibilty of having to be mindful of our own local leaders and staying prayful, watchful and humble looking only to Jesus and the Word of God, and not to man for our salvation (including our very pastors). Yes, our pastors CAN be fallible. Are they not men and women? Created of flesh and blood? They are, and so are we. Let us stay mindful that at any given moment, we too may be led astray and if we need to go to the secular court to get back on track, to agree to disagree then so be it. For more information send an e-mail to cogictruth@juno.com for your free quarterly newsletter.

5. Tradition is Ruling, on June 8th, 2004 at 5:34 pm Said:

   The COGIC is a good denomination. At the same time, the COGIC is a very traditional organization in which some members deeply value being second, third, fourth generation COGIC ministers and members. Numerous other Elders have gone independent and started various full gospel movements. Some of these movements were started out of the leader’s flesh and others were due to them being under traditional leadership versus Godly authority. Bishop Grayson, with 35 years of service to the mother church, is tied to the name which is a reflection of the value tradition has to him and many COGIC members. Tradition is many other denominations as well! At the same time, the COGIC has half accepted woman in the ministry. Although Bishop Grayson does not claim this as a major reason for the break from the mother church, it is an important issue in the COGIC. Bishop Patterson is a good man with the responsibility of leading the COGIC. Let us all examine ourselves and seperate tradition from God’s will. Jesus and the Apostle Paul talked about this exact issue a lot!

6. TN Eastern 1st, on July 9th, 2004 at 2:12 am Said:

   While we live in a post denominational era, many critics have found reasons to discuss their disdain for organiztional structure w/in the various denominational sects. Most of the arguments are worth discussion while some are out of pure lack of knowledge or appreciation for those the various churhes. However, when discussing the COGIC one of the primary reasons for the formation of our great Church was to to be a separate church that practiced the Word of God” as preahed in the Bible in its totality. This particular act or acts alone is what has set us apart from other churches or denominations for many decades. Many of today’s contemporay ministries or demoninations have a direct dirrivative characteric that closely resembles COGIC. (Not to say that they are wrong in their establishments) However, the name COGIC has bears a unique characteristic of its own when dealing w/ the tradition and purpose in which it was formed. Everything that COGIC stands for has some Biblical reference to support the position of the Church. From time to time there will always be people out there who are going to challenge the authority of the Church and there will always be people who seek to attain elevation w/in the Church. ( either for personal gain or through actual call from God)Nevertheless the COGIC is recognized nationally as well internationally and for someone to take that name and form another denomination and calling it different just by adding a “New Day” is simply putting a spin on something that is already established is robbing. Like the previous posting stated if Bishop Mason was inspired by God to give birth this great and name so should Mr. Grayson be inspired as well if he’s sincere and geniune in starting his own movement.

7. Donna Hodge, on August 18th, 2004 at 6:54 am Said:

   I have to say that I was a member of C.O.G.I.C. for over 30yrs, as well as my grandparents, however I left the organization because the C.O.G.I.C. seemed to forget about winning souls for Christ, instead it was about who has the most money, who wears the best clothes and furs and after Bishop Washington passed away C.O.G.I.C. did a huge split. However if it is about winning souls for the body of Christ, then why would Bishop Patterson want to glorify a name instead of letting the name grow and come out of the old church and into a new church that beleives in the same God, however just trying to win more souls for Christ. Bishop Graysons New Day church is just an extenstion of God, not a name, and if Bishop Patterson was not still in the old school mentality then this would be a union of churches, not a separtation of churches. The main problem is that the word religion is a separation of Churches and as far as denominations it should be none, cause God is not a perspective God, and Bishop Patterson truly needs to learn what God has called ministers for. It is not in a name, it should be about God and only God. And one last thing, the C.O.G.I.C. must realize that the old needs to be revised to what is going on now, we have to many souls being lost, and this is one reason why, because of religion. Stop putting God in a box, and let God be God, for he made all the rules and commandments not man. And remember women are just as annointed as men, so C.O.G.I.C. stop being afraid of today, because you cannot edify the body of Christ by being close minded. If Bishop Grayson is carrying the word on and winnng souls for Christ and not the name, then Bishop Patterson should be pleased that after years of dedication from this man Bishop Grayson, he is not here to hurt anyone, he is here to help win souls and that is what the C.O.G.I.C. should be about. If man is wrong in what he does only God has the right to condemn him, not man, for God has the last word in everything.

8. Pastor P, on August 18th, 2004 at 9:10 pm Said:

   If I may, could I please converse with you scholars? It is apparent that many of you are speaking from your emotions and devotion and not
   
   from the facts. Love is blinding. First I have a problem when you speak of Church of God and Christ, and the next sentence you refer to Mr. Patterson. Let me remind you Mr. Patterson is not the Church of God in Christ. He along with eleven others governs the church. Secondly, Let us examine the facts. Bishop Grayson met the prerequisites to have a Jurisdiction in Memphis. Not only did he meet them, He was bringing 28 non-COGIC churches to the fold. When politics ruled instead of prayer he had no other option but to resigned. Even in resigning he followed the proper procedures. When Bishop W.A. Patterson was denied a Jurisdiction by his brother J.O.Patterson SR.,Elder G.E. Patterson formed an entity called COGIC Pastors within the church. This so-called entity was to usurp the power of the ruling authority. When it did not work he fled the church and became Apostle Patterson. 13 years he was exiled from the church in his rebellion. When he comes back to the church he makes History! For the first time a Presiding Bishop is Defrocked! Secondly he hurdles the church into a Law Suit against another Bishop.
   
   He now has violated the scriptures. Bishops are flying into Memphis from all over the world to be part of this grandeur display of power. By the way, who is paying for all this? You are trying to canonize Bishop Patterson and Demonize Bishop Grayson! How can we praise a man that rebukes an
   
   Elderly man like Bishop Reed? Kicks a man out of
   
   the pulpit in front of thousands of people! I have never heard or read an evil word out of the mouth of Bishop Grayson. One more thing. How can you say you love God whom you have not seen, but HATE your brother (Bishop Grayson) whom you see? I am appalled at the loyal hate you all display. I leave you with this; Mr. Ghandi said he would have been a Christian, if it were not for the Christians

9. A Woman for Truth, on August 19th, 2004 at 7:02 pm Said:

   In regards to what I’m hearing and reading concerning the New Day Church’s court battle initiated by Bishop G. E. Patterson who signed the restraining order:
   
   Bishop Grayson did not want a fight. Bishop Grayson did not ask for all of this publicity, nor did he ask to go to court to defend himself for a name that is not copywritten, trademarked, or even used first by the COGIC church founded by Bishop C. H. Mason. All Bishop Grayson wanted was a jurisdiction in Tennessee. As so well stated by Pastor P, he met all the criteria as requested by the General Assembly. Three members of the General Board came to inspect the fellowship of 34 churches (4 more than required), they came, they saw, they spoke, and they went back… To the dismay of Bishop Grayson, Bishop Patterson, a man who Bishop Grayson considered his leader and his friend, because of how frequently they conversed and fellowshipped as couples in the local restaurants in the Memphis area, nor the 3 committee members sent, had the nerve to tell him he was turned down for jurisdictional status. He was informally told that unbelievably he was turned down. Bishop Grayson is not a novice, he was consecrated Bishop 17 years ago, a year before Bishop Patterson became a Bishop and a year before he returned to COGIC after leaving and remaining out of COGIC for 13 years. Bishop Grayson didn’t cause a scene as COGIC members know we can do; but, he did not stand still, he pulled out to form an organization that stands for what is right. Bishop Grayson was shocked to hear after his elevation to the office of Presiding Bishop of his new denomination, that Bishop Reed (then 91 yrs old & a Bishop in COGIC for 57 years), a member of Bishop Patterson’s local congregation returned to church after taking part in that service, by the laying on of hands, was hurt to hear Bishop Patterson during his early morning Sunday service in front of hundreds of people publically landblast Bishop Grayson’s ceremony. Apparently word had gotten back to Bishop Patterson that Bishop Reed had stated he was 200% for his son, Bishop Grayson; Bishop Patterson according to many who sat in the congregation, said, “Anyone who is 200% for my enemy, is not allowed to sit on the platform with me.” How does your friend become your enemy because he makes a decision not to fight your decision, but to move forward in ministry? Why didn’t Bishop Grayson receive jurisdictional status? Could it have been because one of the Bishops in the Memphis area stated to Bishop Grayson that another jurisdiction was not needed? This Bishop seemed to have been speaking for more than himself. Or could it be politics? It seems like this being election year, it was politically expedient for Bishop Patterson to use the power and influence of his office against the formulation of a new jurisdiction in Tennessee in order to win the election. Meaning that if he made another jurisdiction it would mean he might lose the support of the other jurisdictional Bishops in Tennessee, and if he lost Tennessee, he might lose the election. I’ve been a part of COGIC for 24 years. Think about it when the opinions of men take a dominant place, my brothers and my sisters, we need a “NEW DAY.”

10. Elder Frederick D. Brunson, on December 23rd, 2004 at 8:01 pm Said:

    As an individual reverend clergy of our church, (COGIC) I personally stand with Apostle Gilbert Patterson, our Presiding Bishop, on this matter. Why should others who for any reason want to build on something that already had been built upon. The same God that lead our founder and those who rode upon the blessings of Bishop C.H. Mason, that same God has unlimited blessings for anyone who ask for it. Bishop Patterson, I encourage you to continue in the faith that was once delivered to the Saints. My dear brother Bishop Grayson, God has something in the wings for you. I mean, a real blessing only if you don’t challenge this our church. There is more than enough work on earth for any preacher.

    Again, I rally my support behind Bishop Patterson.

    Elder F.D. Brunson Washington, D.C.

11. Minister Leroy Jones Jr., on December 23rd, 2004 at 10:19 pm Said:

    Dear Fellow Viewers,
    
    I greet you first in God’s love. I am a 14 year old Youth Minister in Philadelphia, PA. I attend True Fellowship Church under the Pastorate of Bishop Howard A. Jones, Sr. Truly this situtation has gotten out of control.

    I am not apart of the COGIC, but I have family, and friends within the fellowship. I believe that God does not want all of this mess to be going around about these Bishops. I don’t know Bishop Grayson, but I have some knowledge of Bishop G.E.Patterson. Bishop Patterson is first of all a man of God, along with Bishop Grayson. These men are respected, and well known men.

    I believe that this problem can be resolved between these two men. Truly, I believe that Bishop Grayson should get his own name. The bible says a good name is better than anything. Lets say Bishop Patterson allows Bishop Grayson to have the name. If Bishop Grayson so happens to cause trouble for what so ever reason that may be, he would be a discrace to the name COGIC, and to God. Whether he is apart of the assembly or not.

    Now, all this talk about the COGIC being more focused on the physical, more than the spiritual is a lie. I have been to many COGIC conferences, and seen souls won for Christ, and the spirit of God moved in the services. I don’t know Bishop Patterson, but I consider him as a grandfather in the gospel to me. He has presented before me an example of a true man of God. I don’t know Bishop Grayson, so I can’t say to much about, but what I can is that if he is the man of God that many say he is, then he will seek Gods face for a new name. I am on noone’s side, except God.

    I believe that this issue needs to be resolved, so that everyone can go back to the main reson why we are here on earth, which is to serve God, and get others to serve him to. I might be young, but I am a child of God, and he desires us to be a reflection of him, and right now I don’t see that reflection.

    If any one wants to discuss how I feel you can contact me.
    
    Minister Leroy Jones, 835 N. Preston, Philadelphia, PA 19104, 215-386-7081.

    Grace be unto all of you, and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ

12. new york, on January 16th, 2005 at 10:07 pm Said:

    I am amazed of how long this page of comment goes. so called christian slandering both Bishops. I have been in the COGIC for 29 years and I am blessed to have been prepared foe ministry here. But I am not hung up on people or title. I am fully aware that both bishop Patterson as well as Bishop Grayson Has done wrong in the past I could bring up the past too. However; our God is a just and forgiving God and just like he has forgiven me in my past sins I am more than sure he is fully able to forgive both of them in there. It really disturb me how so called people of God can go in people past and just open other folks closets and there is not even clean and how do I know this because there is a whole lot of back and forth. One person mentions the importance of soul and how the church of God in Christ has moved away from it, but yet they did not lift the name of Jesus in there comment. And the split that they speak of was one jurisdiction not the national. All I guess I am saying is that these events should make us more intentional in prayer and fasting. We as saints of God have a choice in what we will lift up, this court case or the name of Jesus. What will it be?

13. r kelly, on January 11th, 2005 at 11:50 pm Said:

    Is anyone aware that the name Church of God in Christ was in existence before Bishop Mason named the Memphis body? There is the Church of God in Christ, Mennonite that was formed in 1859. So…who can actually hold claim to the name? How about the Church of God in Christ, International and the Church of God in Christ United, the Congregational Church of God in Christ, the Original Glorious Church of God in Christ, the Church of God in Christ Jesus? There are other organizations that use the name Church of God in Christ. What’s the big deal?

14. Anonymous, on January 10th, 2005 at 3:17 am Said:

    This is a very touchy situation. As I understand it, this fight isn’t over a name at all. I understand that Bishop Grayson purchased a FM Radio Station in the city of Memphis of which Bishop Patterson wanted…

    This whole thing about using the COGIC name is hog wash.I am a member of The Church of God in Christ and have been all of my life, but I see some new devils in high places. Bishop Patterson could not love the name COGIC so well; he left COGIC and slandered the COGIC name and honor.

    Bishop Patterson would have never come back to COGIC if they had not have made him a bishop. I think we would have all been better off if we would have listened to Bishop W.L.Porter and allowed G.E. to come back to COGIC as an elder.

    How in the world can you leave your family and not support your family for 14 years and then come back with all power and authority? This is so far from what I have been taught in COGIC.

    I think we should check our beloved Presiding Bishop’s church records and see if he and his church are recorded as COGIC on the real estate records town town, or are they Bountiful Blessings Ministry. Bishop Patterson, you shouldn’t throw a rock and hide your hand.

    Bishop Grayson, I met you a few years ago and I have one word of advice for you… If you want to use the name COGIC, please put it at the end of New Day and you will have a legal name that cannot be tampered with by anybody…What difference does it make if the name of COGIC comes before or after New Day;

    There are a few of us who know the real deal truth about this situation… If you would have let Bishop Patterson buy the FM radio station, you would not be in court right now and you would have been consecrated Bishop in Memphis…

    I love both of you, but the truth needs to dealt with in this situation.

15. PASTOR KEITH, on January 28th, 2005 at 5:11 pm Said:

    Greetings in the Precious name of Jesus!!!!!!
    
    1st let me start by saying God isn’t nor has been glorified in these sad events.While the people of God, & I quote “People of God” are busy fighting each other & promoting hate, souls are being lost & sentenced to eternal damnation. It just trips me out how we say we’re of God but don’t display any Godly characteristics. There are some things that should never be named among those who are sanctified. I don’t care about the fact that Bishop Patterson left the church for 13 yrs & the fact that Bishop Grayson is leaving it now. My concern is the publicity about the matter. You see when politics & money govern the pulpit then the devil rules the congregation. There is no deliverance when anything other than Jesus is being promoted. It’s nothing wrong about being apart of an organization, nor is there anything wrong with starting another fellowship of believers. The world can open up new strip joints, new motels for the pimps & prostitutes & nothing is said. But just let a saint announce that God has given him a mission to start up another work or just leave one & go to another, all HELL breaks loose. I can’t understand us; why we would rather a person go back to the world than to obey God or simply go where his spiritual needs are being met. We can never have too many churches or preachers, bishops ect.We need to remember that it’s NOT about us but it is about God & the harvesting of souls for thekingdom of God. I love & hold to the highest esteem every saint of God people of God we have work to do.My Prayers are with Bishop Patterson the leader of one of the Greatest churches God ever called out” THE CHURCH OF GOD IN CHRIST” of which I’m a product of. Although I’m APOSTOLIC now I shall never put down the church that led to where i am presently. I said then & I say now I’m a legacy of Bishop C H Mason.Thank You JESUS!!! My prayers are also for Bishop Grayson who I’ve had the privilege to meet & even visit in his home, that he would continue to preach the uncut word of God, & always remember that “If God Be For You, He’s More Than The World Against You”.When God comes back to rapture HIS SAINTS not patterson’s saints, not grayson’s saints, not the apostolic saints, but all those who’ve been washed in the blood of the lamb, their garments without blemish,our titles,names ,& organization mean nothing when it comes to your salvation. SAints of God we better get our business straight. You’ve been told & you’ve heard time & time again that God shall return like a thief in the night. When he does come back We better be found in his vinyard harvesting for the kingdom not fighting & fussing but loving & lifting “UP THE MATCHLESS NAME OF JESUS!!! THANK YOU JESUS!!!! I love all the precious saints of God BE BLESSED IN JESUS NAME!!!

16. Min. Moore, on February 13th, 2005 at 5:30 pm Said:

    This is sad, I believe that the Church of god in christ was built upon a rock and as the bible says the gates of hell shall not prevail, so why are we as a family worried about this mess. For one thing we needs to stop typing what we think, turn off our computers and start praying and fasting about it. But I can’t understand why would you won’t leave COGIC, this church has gods favor and if you disagree E-Mail me back and tell me where you have seen god look down on this great church. Saints what we needs to do is help the mother church grow stronger, cause if he not worried about a name “as he says” why can’t he just stay in his old place. As a matter of fact my town has over 55 churches in it and about 32 are cogic. So Please don’t help the devil tear down our “home”.

17. COGIC4EVER, on July 22nd, 2005 at 2:14 pm Said:

    after reading all of the comments, someone mentioned that Bishop Patterson was glorifying the name COGIC. I disagree, totally, and it is not about a love for a name. Someone also said that when refering to COGIC, people automatically think Bishop Patterson. When bringing this to the front and handling it in the matter in which it is being handled, I am quite sure that the board members of the organization had a say in dealing with the situation. Bishop Patterson alone did not make the decision of taking this to court. In fact, he was not present when some of the decisions and votes were made. Another person stated that maybe Bishop Patterson’s church records should be reviewed to see if they are under COGIC or Bountiful Blessings Ministry. The name of the church is Temple of Deliverance Church of God in Christ, the Catherdral of Bountiful Blessings Ministries. Someone else stated something about him being elected again. That notion doesn’t even linger in his mind. If he is not elected then, he’ll be able to stay home with his own congregation. This was said to be about a radio station? His ministry has its own radio station, and has had it for some time now. We can not dwell on the past, if He left COGIC in the past, then let the past be just that. Whatever Grayson did in the past, that is just that also. Some are going on what they have heard. I know it doesn’t matter anyway, but go by what you know. Everybody has their own swing to things. I find it very hard to get my psyche around the whole Bishop Reed issue, because I am a member of Temple of Deliverance and I attend every service and i have never heard of that. When refering to someone as an enemy, it can mean one of two things. That they dislike or seek to destroy you, or you dislike or seek to destroy them. with all this talk aside, Bishop Patterson is to us young people, what Bishop Mason was to our elders today. He is the true representation of what Bishop Mason stood for,and it is all about God. At this point he is focused on the lives of us youngsters. He has brought it to our attention that the God that healed sick bodies in the past, the God that delivered in the past, the God that lifted heavy loads in the past, the God that set-free back in the day, is the same God that will intervene in the situations that we face today. God is calling for holiness on our part too, and this is what Bishop Patterson is teaching us. He is determined that we hear the call that God has for us now, so that we won’t spend a lifetime trying to figure it out altogether. This is what Bishop Patterson is focused on, not on a court case, not on what everyone thinks about him, and everyone else should do the same, Grayson too.

18. young minister, on June 12th, 2005 at 7:01 pm Said:

    Praise the Lord, and greetings in the name of our Lord and Savior, the ONE God, Jesus Christ.

    I am a 20 year old minister in a 7th day, (sabbath), Apostolic ministry, however i was raised in the first day church (sunday). I am very familiar with (COGIC) and have a lot of family there. Some of the preceeding statements disturb me as a child of God. There are too many of us caught up in a name. What differece does it make. We are to busy caught up on the legacy of a man made body, what about the legacy of Jesus Christ. Are we focused on God here or the exhaltation of the flesh. Whether the “New Day” followers want COGIC on the name or not it shouldn’t matter. Look at the name closely church of GOD in CHRIST. This tells me that the church belongs to God not a man. Whomever would like to take on the name of God’s church should be free to do so. God is not pleased with all the saints bickering over a name. Get over It and Yourselves! When Jesus comes COGIC, PAW, UPC, AME, 7th day Apostolic Assemblies, or any other denomination is going to have a special place. God is going to just us all equally, and punish the same. Let’s get to the real reason for our being, CHRIST and the harvesting of souls.

    P.S. I pray that no sinners will read the statements on this page, for if they do, chances are they will stay in there sins.

19. Elder Mark A. Pinkerton, on March 30th, 2005 at 11:06 pm Said:

    I am a proud member of the COGIC. I am proud of my pentecostal heritage and very grateful to God for the foundation I recieved in the COGIC.
    
    I agree whole heartedly with a previous comment I read.
    
    If an idividual decides to seperate themselves from a ministerial association, it is completely unreasonable to try to retain the identity of the organization they want to seperate themselves from.
    
    When I recieved my ordination I agreed to adhere to the teachings of the COGIC fellowship. If I were to later change my mind it would be ludicrous to try to retain the endorsement and identity of the ordaining body.
    
    The impartation I’ve recieved from the great men and women of God I came up under will stay with me for the rest of my life.
    
    I’m grateful to be a part of a fellowship that stands behind God’s word. Not to mention being a part of the most prolific pentecostal organizations in the world. We have a rich history and I celebrate it.

20. SaintofGod, on March 23rd, 2005 at 12:13 pm Said:

    To all the saints of God:
    
    I greet you in the name of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. I read the previous comments concerning this issue. And it hurts me to see how such a case can cause us to argue and fight with one another. To talk about Bishop Patterson or Grayson would be wrong. I’m pretty sure that if we pray, fast, and seek God for direction rather than voice our opinions on what is going on, then this issue would have been resolved. God can’t solve the problem if we’re in the way. We want to tell God how things should go. GOD IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION!!! And before you bring judgement upon another person, first take a look at yourself. Then have a talk with God. God created us. He knows our weaknesses and strengths. He is the only one who can fix us because he made us. Talk to Him. God would never steer you in the wrong direction.

    One person made a comment that the entire COGIC body is only out for money. One mistake that people often make is labeling an entire group for the mistakes of one individual or a group of individuals. Unless you have been to every COGIC in the world and found this to be true, then you can’t make such a comment. My pastor is an elder with the COGIC. I know that he is a true man of God who desires that every man be saved from the upcoming wrath of God.

    Let’s love one another. And like another person said previously. Don’t write things out of emotion. Stick to the Word of God. Because the Word of God is right!!!!!

    I love you all and God bless.

21. Truthbetold, on March 23rd, 2005 at 2:17 pm Said:

    I have read all of the comments. The sum of it all, is a waste of time and energy to do great things for God, to bring others to know Him and His Son Christ. Not Jesus. Jesus died on the cross. Rose being ruler over all. There is so much concern about, how, who, what. There is a whole universe out there and with all of these traditions and ignorant beliefs that have no biblical roots you yourself are trapped, in a world meant to blind you, keep you in debt, and sick. Preach the REAL GOSPEL. Jesus did not belong to a church. He went out to the streets and dwelled among who you would call sinners and “they might make me com back to my old ways” people. If you look at North Memphis. There is a church or two on every corner, but the communities are in shambles. Life is short and especially short if you have diabetes and cancer. Many fat preachers are in the pulpit and weigh in over 400 lbs, but you can tell me about my sin lust of the flesh but you get to chow down on hog backs with cornbread. And you (COGIC) Look like hypocrites to the rest of God’s Children. I dare you to find the real truth to challenge and question everything you have been taught. Seek God for yourself. I dare you. But it is too convient to rely on the Pasta’. Call me the truth

22. Vanessa Nathaniel, on October 1st, 2005 at 12:58 am Said:

    I am a member of Smithdale Church Of God In Christ in Smithdale, MS under the leadership of Elder Lampton Robinson. My church family is concern about Bishop Patterson’s well being. We have heard that he is very sick and we have no way of finding out how he is doing. Will please let me know through an e-mail of his health?

    Thank you,
    Your Sister in Christ,
    Vanessa Nathaniel

23. Sister Townsend, on October 18th, 2005 at 9:29 am Said:

    The sad thing about this that People in this COGIC originzation are so closed-minded. When will they seek God for themselves instead of their late founder vision. They never visit any other churches unless they are in their organization(shame on them) I couldn’t imagine Jesus only visiting the COGIC ONLY. I’m Apostolic/baptist/Methodist/ COGIC…etc……God is tired of men mess……..

    Let’s get back to praising JESUS and leave flesh the heck alone.

24. The Gospel Blimp, on October 23rd, 2005 at 8:53 am Said:

    [...] From: http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/gospelblimp.htm
    As you may have noticed, I have dropped much of the blast against wickedness in preachers. The young warriors need to take that up I think. But, I felt I should keep this article up and emphasize the need for Fundamental Bible believing pastors to deal with their fat. It is interesting that readers keep writing in hate against the editorial at this site. They totally miss the massive positive content, and they come here and get their overweight nose out of joint. So be it. [...]

25. clem lockett, on December 26th, 2005 at 10:22 pm Said:

    where in all of God’s word any one on earth today was given a church name?

26. Anonymous, on January 6th, 2006 at 12:27 pm Said:

    We spend more time fighting each other than saving souls. What a tradgedy.

27. Min. Eddie Mccline, on March 20th, 2007 at 3:52 pm Said:

    yes keep praying for our leader Bishop G.E. Patterson that the lord will heal and keep him.

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